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If not John Fox - who? If not Delhomme - who?

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by meatpile, Oct 26, 2009.

  1. Thelt

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    That is why he needs to stay. His approach still works. It will probably always work unless they change the rules down the road one day. Having a bad QB does not make him a bad coach. I posted another thread asking what we would be with Drew Brees as our QB. I also wonder what we would look like with a middle of the pack QB.
     
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    If we let Fox go he will end up somewhere else and have success there. He is a solid coach. He might need a little more help with personnel than Hurney can provide but he is a solid coach. No coach from Vince Lombardi to Rich Kotite can win when they have a QB turning the ball over at the rate Jake has been doing.

    I am starting to hope that they bench Jake and put in Feeley or Moore. Not so much because I think they are really any better but it will mean a much more conservative playbook with more running plays.
     
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    I guess my point is more, "you should be good at something before you try to be good at everything." Alternately, I don't see what the big deal is besides his father's name.

    yeah. He's got what you'd want.
    Granted I wish he was a little better in the Pac-10 but it's Stanford.

    Agree. Cowher and Gruden are the flashy names. Spurrier was a flashy name once. Seifert was a flashy name once.

    Granted, Holmgren almost made it happen again in Seattle. I don't want to say "no coach has gone back and won another ring with someone else". But so far it's true.
     
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    Probably. But the decision is whether he will be good enough here to go forward or not.
    And if not, the only consideration is who will do better than we have, not what the guy we let go is going to do.

    It would suck to see him go 12-4 with another team, but right now it sucks to be 2-4 while a kid Bellichick found like five years ago is undefeated with Kyle Orton and a coordinator we didn't really want that badly.
     
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    Something tells me McCoy doesn't have much to do with that record, but as the panthers get worse he'll be a better coach.
     
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    If Shottenheimer, Gruden, Cowher, Billick, Shannahan, Dungy are sitting out there I don't know it's super likely Fox gets snagged immediately especially with the climate of going with younger guys who have been emersed in the the "modern" era of the last few decades.

    And while I believe he could go somewhere else with different players, front office, etc and do well off the bat bringing his philosophy like he did here I don't think that has anything to do with what he can do to fix the situation here now.
     
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    Of course, 02, 04, and 06 we either had shitty backs or shitty line, or both. 07 we started to rededicate, and 08 we obviously knocked it out. That's one thing Henning failed at - and Davidson had done a better job at up until this year.
     
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    McCoy is definitely crappy. He got hired for being one of the few guys familiar with the Pats' O.
     
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    Might be the other way around. Cant tell me Henning goes to Miami and then his offensive "light switch" just comes on. I think Fox puts his conservative clamps on every coach that comes here. I'm sick of it and ready for him to burn the road up.
     

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