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Gantt believes Wharton may be at guard

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by magnus, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. magnus

    magnus Chump-proof

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    ...based on his $6 mil payday v/s a $7 mil or greater payday.

    I disagree on the theory. I think that, as a starting tackle, they weren't going to go into this trying to give a hometown discount AND a discount for guard. Hell, the guard market's the ridiculously overblown market, I could see paying $7 mil for a top tackle. All that'd prove is that the difference between G and T is as negligible monetarily as it's treated in the franchise tag.

    At any rate, he could still be a guard, and we could have sold him on that based on a big payday, but the payday could've been bigger. If he'd have stayed out, another month and he'd be the only young starting LT on the market, and better believe that's a higher payday than "I can say in Carolina and make less money as a guard".



    I believe the guard idea is an optimistic one. I like that forethought, and in this scheme, maybe he could do it. It'd be a way, including a 1st round OT, to improve us. But I don't believe that's why we just sunk $35 mil into a guy we've wanted to keep at tackle, even in 04 when we had to move him.
     
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    He says it's Wahle money inflated for 2008. Why would they pay Wahle money for a guard not as highly regarded as Wahle. It doesn't make sense.
     
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    actually I'd believe the Wahle deal would be much higher if adjusted. If he got $5 mil (?) in 2005, guards were already getting $7 mil in 2007, compared to adjusting upward $1 mil/year in a total of 3 years' time?


    conversely, I wouldn't at all be against grabbing a good tackle in the draft still, and putting him at LG. It even lines up with the people who want to pay Gross for just one year.
     
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    I don't think they've decided whether he's guard or tackle - but they've decided that they like him in either place - and now we have options.

    Save Adams, Wharton was the top FA prospect. And Adams is old and will want a monnster deal, I think. That doesn't make Wharton great, but it illustrates what else was out there should we let him go.

    I like the flexibility. I like that they can draft a top LT, have depth at LT in Wharton or the pick, move Wharton to LG if needed, it gives us alot of options. I like that it keeps Gross from trying to hold them over a barrel.
     
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    How does it compare to "tackle money"? Is he the first to have been extended this year? (I suppose I could have looked that up)
     
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    The way I read Gantt's piece is that the Panthers offered him this contract and project him as a guard, his agentt didn't forsee a better offer coming by anyone who thought he'd be a tackle.
     
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    I don't see that at all. Somebody is going to pay a starting tackle starting tackle money.
     
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    I don't follow much college ball, but I know guards tend to be drafted later than tackles, and having Wharton locked up would allow us a better opportunity to get a true impact player if we choose to go with o-line in round one. If there is a run on tackles, the top guard should be there I would think.

    Question is... is there an elite guard prospect out there this year worthy of a mid-first pick? If not, is there an impact (starter) guard that projects to the 2nd or 3rd?
     
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    "To me, it cements the fact he's going to get a chance to play guard, because if they thought they could take him into the market as a tackle, there was more money available. "
     
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    Tackle money last year was over $7 million.

    And Leonard Davis wound up at guard for that money. And that was last year.

    Hutchinson made $7 million per year 2 years ago for a guard - he was a 3 time pro bowler - but it was 2 years ago and Wharton is cheaper.

    I don;t want it to sound cheap - but it's not gargantuan the way these top Free agent o-line contracts have been.

    If Gross gets out, I'm betting he'll fetch over $8 million per year.
     

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