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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by gridfaniker, Feb 7, 2008.

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    No, you're not bitter.
     
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    I don't have to back up any claims. That is what you are not getting, Asshole. I was just making a valid point in a discussion. This is not a court of law.



    PK said it on the air. He is an NFL insider that is completely aware of what is going on. He said it is regular practice of every team. You on the other hand are a blow-hard clown that just gets off reading his own material.




    You really get off on hammering away at insignificant things don't you? It is clear that you are trying to divert attention from the fact that you are wrong. You must get beat up alot.

    I was simply making the point that a 10 year NFL executive/coach and current NFL insider said it was common practice and and only knew of 1 incident where it was not granted....league wide. You are just being a fucking douche over the fact that I didn't say "always, with one exception" instead of "always". Go suck a dick.
     
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    Not at all. Is English your primary language? What am I to be bitter about? The fact that the accomplishments of the first alleged NFL dynasty of the new millenium are now widely questioned? I'm not bitter about that. I'm more entertained by the idiotic justifications used by many Pats fans in the effort to excuse blatant cheating.


    Yes you do. That is what you are not getting, but it's not surprising that someone with your obvious mental deficiencies would not be able to understand. You were not making a "valid" point. Your were making a point that was pure opinion. I asked you to validate since your statement is not in any of the rules or bylaws that I have read. Your only response was some fictional (since you can't even produce a transcript) on air interview by an ex team exec. In other words, you haven't made a single "valid" point yet. And now, you're trying to hide that fact by getting your panties knotted up and playing the insult game.

    If he said it on air, there is a clip or a transcript out there. I've looked. My conclusion is you're talking out your butt. NFL Insider? He hasn't worked in any team's office in 10 years. He's a columnist. CNN selling him as an "NFL Insider" doesn't change that.

    I was wrong? and yet you corrected your original post in a subsequent post. You were stupid, got called on it as you have called out others when it suits you and now seek to make your stupidity seem to be someoneelse's issue. Your "always" claim was stupid. period (By the way, you would have been better off had you added this to the Kirwan myth and claimed to be quoting him.)

    Actually, I don't. Probably not as much as I need, but thanks for the offer. I doubt it's within your capability anyway.

    He was an NFL exec until 1997. I don't think he's been much more than a sports columnist since.

    Why do you continue to put so much emphasis on that "always" if you truly view it as insignificant? Your stupidity on that is established as fact. There isn't anything you can do to change that. I recommend you put your effort into trying to validate your other ridiculous points and maybe you can save a few rep points in the view of others.
     
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    dude, he loves the pats. he has to hate that they're cheaters. he's trying to minimalize it - what fan wouldn't. its much easier to deal w/ the way our line was cheating to me since we lost the superbowl. if we had won - i may not like admitting it, but there would be an * in my mind next to our title - not because i don't think other linemen are on the juice - but because ours got caught and i found out about it. for that reason i'm kinda glad we didn't win.
     
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    Like you, I didn't care for the stuff that came out about our line following the superbowl. We both know that our guys were using the stuff but the league has never come out and said so. Why? Because when tested, they were within established limits. Any advantage was right there visible on game film. The bigger stronger team doesn't always win. Studying films can find the flaws and a gameplan developed to exploit them. The issue here, at least in these latest allegations, is in stealing the gameplan. A team is much harder to beat if they know what you're going to do in advance. And as we now know, there were players on the Pats juiced as well. Harrison did a suspension for HGH. I'll call their confirmed case against our alleged cases a push. And besides all that, 49erpi is an idiot and I'm trying to see how many different stories he'll make up.
     
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    3/4 of the Panther offensive line and the punter were on steroids for that game so can we just call it even and STFU?
     
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    Everyone cheats. No asterisk. 49erpi wins.
     
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    Since you want to play it that way

    Go find one report that any Panther player has ever been determined to actually have used steroids. You'll find that they had perscriptions. You'll find that they even filled them. But you won't find any statement that the use was confirmed. No eyewitness statements, no positive P tests, no admissions by any player.

    I would consider a player to be a total idiot if he put himself into a position where his name could be all over steroids and he wasn't using. SO these guys were using at the low levels that Shortt wanted to keep them under the NFL radar. Harrison on the other hand admitted HGH use claiming he started in 2004. He opened up when the investigaiton started into his supplier in New York. Do you think he jumped right into HGH the year after signing with the Pats? or did he just change suppliers to a closer one and happened to pick the wrong one?.
     

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