Vinny - 2008?

It happens all the time though.

 

Teams are dumb and desperate.

 

and it doesn't really work out that well. If you're lucky, you get get your guy some experience and don't harm him. You compensate heavily and try to win a football game around a bunch of extra obstacles. If you're not, you screw up your heavy investment.

 

this thread should be deleted

 

I guess that is the heart of what I am trying to say. I do not want us to draft a QB early in the first round because I think there will be too much pressure to play him early. We will give in to that pressure and our QB will be an expensive bust. There is not a can't miss type guy coming out this year.

The best thing we could do is draft a guy in the later rounds and try to develop him behind Jake. A guy with more polish and ability than Lefors or Fasani would be nice.

 

we probably won't be picking early in the first round. If we were, we probably wouldn't go for a QB anyway, but I"m not against a first day QB to sit and learn. It's not a better approach to pick a lesser prospect and let him sit just because he's a lesser product. Any QB should have that time to learn.

And like it or not, the second day is full of shitty second rate QBs. I'm not against them taking a guy they really like, but it's just a depth guy. Any young QB immediately becomes a savior, including a bunch of fucking slugs.

Now, with a later guy, you have the ability to throw another guy on the fire without much consequence, whereas a 1st or 2nd really takes the focus. The downside is with our approach for instance, where we drafted a couple guys in a few years and they weren't even worth the damn to develop, but if they had been, wouldn't have had the time to develop.

 

I think you have to keep taking a second day QB every year and hoping you find a good one among the crappy ones. If you go through enough Lefors and Fasanis you might find a Hassleback or Brady.

I would not be opposed to using a first day pick on a QB but if we do draft in the top ten or so this year I hope it is not a QB.

 

it's not like linemen or linebackers where you just stash a guy because you have 9 others. You'd have to pay a starter and a solid vet backup, and at most you're giving a guy one year, and an extra camp to fight the next guy. You have to see a lot of promise to not keep drafting the next guy based on whether a guy showed enough in one year.

on the other hand, you can't give a mediocre guy who's not showing anything, a five year window to develop. The best way to say it, of course, just like with the first round QB, with the veteran, with the late draft choice, and of course with any situation, is that one size doesn't fit all. You do what's right for the situation at hand.


One interesting sidenote is that most of our "projects" overall haven't worked out. I don't blame them for that necessarily because I don't mind them occasionally taking chances, but guys like Butler for instance, we just don't end up putting the time into them. Like the QBs above, some of it's just picking guys that aren't incredible.

 

I guess it would not be practical to draft a guy every year but it seems like we have went long stretches without drafting a guy or having a solid guy to develop on the roster.

I think it might work just as well to wait until Jake is done then find a veteran who is good an pay him. That is what the Saints did with Brees and that worked well for them. Someone could do that this year with Derek Anderson.