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"Quarterback controversy"

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by pantherguy, Apr 6, 2007.

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    Bono got robbed too.
     
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    Seifert hand picked the scrub from Denver. Lewis backed up Bline for a year or so. Seifert cuts Bline and hands the reigns to Lewis. Lewis stunk up the preseason so badly he was cut.

    Craig was never given an opportunity like Lewis was. Craig may have stunk, but he did set an NFL record and I never saw him throw 1 INT for the Panthers.

    This is such a stupid argument. I was admitting to being a Craig supporter and laughing at both Craig and Lewis supporters at the same time.

    Delhomme and Carr is not the same at all. Delhomme is a proven starter and Carr is a proven starter. Neither are scrubs struggling to make the starting lineup. It should be an interesting offseason. I personally hope Delhomme leads us to a couple more NFC championships, but I don't see why Carr was brought in to back up Delhomme for more than a year. Writing is on the wall as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    NFL europe isn't the NFL, that's pretty clear. And Craig was given every possible chance, the same chance that Lewis and Weinke got.


    proof positive that some people never learn
     
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    That statement is absurd.

    Bono had 1 or 2 passing attempts
    Craig had 8 passing attempts
    Lewis had 50 something passing attempts
    Weinke had 300 + passing attempts.

    This entire thread should really be dedicated to Bono.

    Mango...just drop it.....Lewis sucked and proved it all over the field. Craig was a novelty (scrambling black qb that set and impressive record in NFLeurope) but he was not a starting Qb either. Let's just let it rest. You backed a dud....just deal with it.
     
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    Are you talking about 1999 or 2001? Could you at least get that right?
    Lewis didn't start either. Craig had every chance to start and you whining he didn't get a chance sounds really fucking stupid.
     
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    HISTORY REVIEW FOR MANGO

    Rookie to watch
    Weinke is the surprise QB to emerge in Carolina
    By Scott Fowler
    As published in print Sept. 17, 2001

    Panthers QB
    Chris Weinke
    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — At George Seifert’s very first press conference as head coach of the Panthers, he described himself as a "quarterback freak."

    Certainly, the position has looked freaky for the Panthers in 2001.

    Carolina’s long, strange road to starting Chris Weinke in the season opener at Minnesota — and watching Weinke engineer a monumental upset — included:

    Firing QB Steve Beuerlein in March, after Beuerlein had started 44 straight games for Carolina and made the Pro Bowl in 1999.
    Declaring QB Jeff Lewis the heir apparent to the starting job.
    Drafting Weinke, the Heisman Trophy winner from Florida State, as a 29-year-old insurance policy in the fourth round of the 2001 draft. Seifert declared Weinke the fourth-team quarterback that day.
    Demoting Lewis after his awful preseason that included a rare trifecta — three interceptions in three consecutive throws in an exhibition at Baltimore.
    Firing Lewis and deciding to go with Weinke as the surprise starter just days before the season opener.
    It sounded like a QB recipe for disaster. Not only did Weinke have no NFL starting experience, but neither did his unknown backups, Dameyune Craig and Matt Lytle.

    But at least for awhile, it has worked.

    All NFL games were called off last weekend because of the horrendous terrorist strikes in New York and Washington. The 1-0 Panthers are scheduled to play their second game under Weinke on Sept. 23 at Atlanta. The Falcons are the only team in the NFC West to lose their season opener.

    "I’m going to be ready," Weinke said. "This is almost a dream come true for me. But it’s real."

    It has been 24 years since an NFL team entered the regular season without a quarterback who has ever started even one NFL game. The Panthers of 2001 became the first team to do that since the ’77 Giants.

    Seifert has presided over odd QB situations before, most famously the controversy between Joe Montana and Steve Young.

    This one is on a very different scale. Although Weinke shares the No. 16 uniform number of Montana, the rookie is more like New Hampshire right now.

    The Panthers scaled back the playbook and have made their play-calling quite conservative. They are more intent on keeping Weinke from losing games than asking him to try to win them by himself.

    Weinke followed orders quite well the first week, staying away from major mistakes and throwing the ball crisply. He completed 13-of-22 passes for 223 yards with one interception and one touchdown in Carolina’s 24-13 win over Minnesota. He audibled only once.

    Weinke also had a QB sneak for a touchdown, as the Panthers opened a season with a win for only the second time in team history. The only other time was in ’96, when Carolina went 12-4 and advanced to the NFC championship game.

    "The best thing he did against Minnesota," Seifert said, "was that he didn’t try to go win the game on his own. … You almost didn’t notice him. He was efficient, and he did exactly what we asked him to do."

    Said Weinke after the game: "I don’t know if it gets any better than this."

    It may not. Weinke is basically a younger version of Beuerlein, and Beuerlein never could get the Panthers to the playoffs.

    Weinke has a very strong arm but doesn’t run very well. He shows fine leadership qualities but has some problems reading NFL defenses quickly. One good thing: He has played in many big games before and doesn’t appear at all fearful.

    "I’m too old to get nervous," Weinke said.

    Obviously, Weinke is the Panthers’ best option at the moment. Seifert released Beuerlein in March, seemingly a questionable move at the time until it turned out that Beuerlein had lingering injury problems and wouldn’t be able to play much this season anyway.

    Carolina got into this jam primarily by believing in Lewis, time after time, even when he had never done anything much to deserve that belief.

    Seifert traded for Lewis in ’99, giving Denver third- and fourth-round draft choices. The Panthers would let Lewis loose every preseason, hoping for something big, and every preseason he would disappoint. Lewis was supposed to be mobile and accurate, yet he never threw a TD pass at Carolina in 11 exhibition games and limited regular-season duty.

    Still, Carolina wouldn’t give up on him. The Panthers extended Lewis’ contract three years in February 2000, eventually paying him $4.625 million. Finally, Seifert threw in the towel in August after Lewis had another lousy preseason and Weinke showed promise. It’s still possible Carolina could sign a veteran who could replace Lytle as the third quarterback, but so far that hasn’t happened.
     
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    Funnier still is the fact that you have failed to mention Craig's injury that basically killed any chance he ever had at a start.

    Lewis is 10 x a bigger bust than Craig....just admitt it Mango.
     
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    He had four years. He got into play and blew. Excuse it with an injury, try to get pissy about Jeff Lewis and pretend he's the reason Craig blew.
    Do anything possible to pretend he didn't get a chance. Maybe next it'll be my own personal fault Riddel's special little guy was a miserable failure.
     
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    doesn't help when this occurs

    Carolina Panthers' QB Dameyune Craig (Claymores 99) has been placed on IR. He will have surgery on his leg injury and is expected to be out for the season.
    Transaction wire
     

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