Has anyone heard the rumor

I said it was argueable, it's still relevant to me and probably to a lot of people.

Anything is argueable, if you chose to follow the arguement.

 

McFly is not alone in his POV. All you have to do is listen to half of the talking heads on TV to see that they always bring up Vick's passing stats. But to utilize Vick appropriately as a coach, you have to break that mold.

 

I think the talent is there (Vick), but they try to set the whole team on his shoulders and don't necessarily adapt the game to fit him. He's often lacked really good fight for the ball receivers. If all Atlanta's receivers were as dependable/tenascious as their TE whose name escapes me at the moment CRUMPLER!!, they'd be better. The guy has skills, but I really have been back & forth on how "great" he could be. Looking at Lucas's interception again last night, I couldn't say for sure if he was throwing into double coverage - there was an Atlanta player behind TWO Panthers, or was trying to throw it out of bounds in which case don't shoot FOR the sideline, sling it the hell into the front row. Either way, it was a dumb pass which I'm sure our QB's were thinking "Hey, that looks like something I'd do!"

 

Nearly all of you. I'm not saying that blasting someone isn't disruptive, because it is. Those people get defensive, they whine, and they later create threads talking about how mean I am. But in the meantime they take extra time to make sure their other comments have more validity, or at least aren't so obviously stupid.

Wrong. They most certainly know that they're wrong, whether they refuse to admit it or not. And as I've said before, I really don't care if someone thinks that I'm an ass, because by conventional societal definitions, I am.

I'd be curious to understand the thought process that leads you to go from this topic to political comments. It's just an odd leap that I find somewhat interesting.

If I were interested in credit, you would have a point. You are much, much more likely to eventually admit that I am correct if I am patient and spend the next two weeks hammering home why I'm right without more directly hurting your feelings. The thing is, most of the time I don't care about getting you to admit that I'm right and you're wrong. In those cases, I know that I'm right and don't need your acknowledgment. Similarly, I don't need your apologies for being wrong, I'd much rather you either just shut up or be less likely to say something stupid the next time.

Wrong yet again. Why do you people insist on saying things that are obviously untrue? Maybe you're stupid enough to believe it, but any objective analysis of requests for input would reveal that the only person who would have about as many or possibly more requests for their opinion on football topics than me would be magnus. It happens all the time, both publicly and through PMs.

Actually I won't start being a loser until I subvert myself for the sake of those who resent excellence. Do I need to be so blunt and insulting? No, but I don't care to invest the time or effort in sparing your feelings. But if I pretended that I cared or, like magnus, disingenuously claimed that I really wasn't better than other people in terms of football knowledge, I'd only be disgracing myself. Demeaning yourself for the sake of others is an incredibly inhuman, ignoble, and foolish thing to do.

I doubt that's true, but whatever the case, you'll certainly be less likely to repeat that position after being humiliated for stating something that is so obviously wrong. No one likes to look stupid, and having your comments pointed out as such in this case will hopefully make you less likely to share them if you stubbornly refuse to change something you cannot logically defend. It is your right, just like anyone else's, to be irrational.

Not only does it make you wrong, but it makes you look utterly idiotic. It is so obviously incorrect and ridiculous that it devalues your opinion on other subjects, which I presume is something you'd prefer to avoid.

Holding to an opinion that is stupid and obviously wrong, as this one has already been proven to be, is threatening and insulting to absolutely every justified opinion in the world. If we accept or at least do not dismiss things that are clearly incorrect, then clearly valid opinions lose purchase and are demeaned.

 

I can't believe you just said this.

Nobody resents your "excellence".

If you really believe that your football knowledge and your ability to "verbally" berate people over the internet is so intimidate to other people that they resent you, then you are not nearly as smart as you believe you are.

People resent you because you are arrogant and an asshole. By conventional societal definitions, of course.

 

My position stands:fu4:

 

I don't resent Collin, but I would if he got personal. On second thought, I'd probably just laugh, knowing it's just his "way". Like it or not.

I grew up with a pretty violent temper (one reason I loved playing football, free violence), and worked for years/decades to understand how to be civil and not go off on people. First physically, then verbally. I cuss plenty, but I don't have to use that to make a point in an argument. Rather, I have worked to make the argument stand without resorting to that stuff (try to respect everyone, but I definitely respect people who don't resort to that shit). I'm about as non confrontational as they come these days. It wasn't easy, and I ain't throwing all that work away for anyone.

 

You're wrong, but your disbelief is understandable. There are people here who are complete assholes but are not reviled because no one cares. Similarly, there are many times where I'm not being a dick but still get the same reaction because people just fundamentally resent feeling inferior, whether that was intended or not. I've even made concerted efforts to be polite and patient at message boards I generally don't post at, just to test whether or not it's rudeness they're reacting to, and it wasn't. Granted, I didn't get the same degree of reaction that I do here, but the cause was still the act of being corrected. People hate that, whether you're polite or not.

 

that would be me

 

Not in my opinion.