We were not conservative enough....

http://www.benchjake.com/

 

Dodge? You said that we didn't use the slant anymore and I proved that you lied. Moreover, you're still lying. We didn't just use the slant a couple of times in the last few seasons, we use it regularly. Everyone knows that, and so everyone can see that you're lying. Unfortunately for you, you're too stubborn to just admit that you made a mistake and were wrong, so instead you make it worse for yourself by continuing to say that we don't use slants as I provide more and more proof that we do.

And as for the rest, I've already told you that Jake's downfield performance is bad regardless of the down. He's inaccurate and prone to overthrows on those intermediate and deep passes whether it's on first, second, or third down. The reason his third down ratings are atrocious is because we have to throw downfield more often then.

 

throwing the word "lie" around for shock value doesn't make it true. You know just as I do that from 95-2001, that was the passing staple of this offense and it was non-existant up to this year.

And yet you haven't proven it with anything. Hell, I'm not saying it's not a factor. I agree we've thrown short more. You just aren't proving it.

You've ignored that we throw deep on 1st and 2nd, and I'm willing to guess more than on 3rd, which is logical. It's also logical to not sit there and point fingers at one thing and one thing only.

 

No, that's where you're lying. I gave you two very high profile examples of us throwing the slant when you said we didn't use it at all, and there were many, many more examples than that. We actually used the slant quite often from 2003 to 2005, although less often this season.

I proved it with five games worth of screenshots where Jake was consistently missing his receivers any time they were downfield, I proved that Jake was dumping the ball off much more often by pointing out that his yards per attempt statistic is far lower than it has ever been before in his career, and when the next edition of K.C. Joyner's book comes out after the season we'll have the exact numbers on just how much worse Jake has been throwing downfield this season as compared to previous seasons. For now we can look at the statistics that are available, the anecdotal evidence, and just use common sense to be aware that he is much worse than before. Anyone can see that he hasn't been as accurate downfield as he was in previous years.

How can I ignore something when I repeatedly point out that fact? You're actually the one ignoring something, and you're ignoring my point that Jake has sucked at throwing downfield on 1st and 2nd down as well. He's sucked throwing downfield at any point, because he's lost his accuracy. His 3rd down rating just happens to be the worst in the NFL because that's when he's forced to throw downfield most often.

As I have stated repeatedly, Jake's downfield inaccuracy is the single biggest difference between the 2005 offense and the 2006 offense. The other differences are largely negligible.

 

You gave two examples, sure (one an article that hardly forces it to be accurate). That means "wasn't used at all" would be wrong. That it was used regularly at all before Keyshawn? No. It wasn't used regularly at all.

and yet nothing to bear it out statwise, leaving nothing but an agenda. That Jake has been off on some deeper balls? Sure. There's nothing to state this is all Jake and this game isn't about 100% individual performance. I'm open to options but the idea that it's all one player, and that coincidentally the coordinator has nothing to do with it? That's an argument trick, not logic.

You pointed out that we throw deep less on first and second than on third? Where? You didn't. That's not when Jake has to throw downfield more. That his options are mostly intermediate at that point? Agreed. That's not what's being argued.

 

why?!

why do people like collin always twist things around to fit their criteria and what they are trying to argue.. they cant take the whole thing and analyze it. they take lil sections out of it to fit what they want

 

Dude, why you blatantly lie about things this stupid and insignificant is beyond me. It's so silly and unnecessary. Anyway, anyone else can see that this year we have used the slant less often than we did in recent years.

Jesus Christ man, I'm the one who has given tons of statistics while you haven't given any at all. Jake's YPA is going to be a career low, and his completion percentage on downfield passes is much lower than it had ever been here.

Hey dumbfuck, let's see if you can read this and admit that you were wrong yet again:

Seriously magnus, I think marriage has made you dumb. It used to actually require some effort to beat you in an argument, but now you say something stupid about every other post.


RobAC65:
It is a measure of your own ignorance that you lack the ability to tell that I'm the one presenting facts and statistics. I don't need to twist anything, whereas magnus has to pretend he meant this or that or something else every time I prove him wrong, which seems to be happening every fourth post these days. I realize from your recent posting history that you think it will be helpful to be magnus' personal genitals attendant, but honestly man, you want to be quiet now.

 

oll..."because I say so". You stating it isn't proof, to anyone else anyway.

 

Dude, you said I didn't say something and I provided a direct quote showing that I did. That's pretty much a slam dunk case of you being wrong, but typically you don't have the balls to admit it. Whatever tiny nuts you had before are now securely in your wife's bedroom dresser.

 

pointing it out means proving it. You haven't. Spin, insult, and yet no substance.