We were not conservative enough....

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qc: where can i get one of those shirts. it's funny as hell. i think it would make a neat collectors item.

 

I get the gist of his statement. It worked then, Henning's not inept. And I agree. He doesn't literally mean they run the same handful of plays. But yes, there's a strong resistance to change there.

And this team isn't 2003's team. This team isn't the 2001 team. This isn't the 1983 Redskins. You don't do something over and over just because it's worked before . You don't do something over and over so you don't have to make a new laminated playsheet this week. You do whatever you're doing because it's your best chance.

and I don't just say "it's never one thing/person" to excuse someone I feel is being bashed out of hand. It's not just Henning and playcalling hasn't been as bad as execution this year. He's responsible for both as the leader of the offense, but the one that can be dealt with more easily is the playcalling. You can do something about that.

And you can bet that, if the Chargers did run "one play 18 times", that it was against a big weakness, and that it was something that was working.

 

Or maybe Fox knows what he's talking about, whereas you don't. The single biggest difference between the offense last year and the offense this year is that Jake has royally sucked on passes more than 5 yards from the line of scrimmage.

Wrong. According to Yahoo!, we've run 5 times all season on 3rd and more than 8.

As I've already pointed out to you, San Diego ran the same play 18 times against Denver recently, and the Broncos aren't exactly a terrible defense. At the pro level you don't just re-design everything based on who you're playing, you line up and run what you want to run. NFL playbooks are massive, but many times only have a handful of running plays, they just change the formations.

It seems that way because you don't know what you're talking about. Seriously, that's the reason. The times I disagree with Fox or the team, I bring up statistics and facts to make a broad argument that illustrates my own grasp of the situation. If you'd be willing to do that to justify the things you say are supposedly obvious from your perspective, that would be cool and welcome. Until then, however, I'm just going to be secure in my belief that you don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, it really is. I have already explained to you that Jake is shitty on passes more than 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage whether it's on first down, second down, or third down. He just happens to be worst of all on third down because the defense is even more prepared for the pass. I don't know why he has so completely lost his downfield accuracy and I don't know if it will magically come back next season, but it annoys me when people pretend there are all sorts of other reasons for our offensive struggles when none of them represent a bigger difference from last year to this year than that one statistic. It is the cause.

 

yep. that's rational right there.

 

I've not seen anything other than 3rd down QB rating to suggest it. For one, it'd take more than that to suggest specifically it's one person by himself. Two, his QB rating is stable between formations.
Three, his first and second down from various yard situations isn't lacking.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4555/situational

 

Because formations or distance don't force downfield passes on first or second downs. Notice the fact that even on 1st and 10 or 2nd and long, his ypa is much lower than it has been earlier in his career. That's because he's dumping the ball off more frequently. But on downfield attempts, regardless of the down or the formation, he's been significantly worse this season than in previous ones.

 

We don't chuck the ball downfield haphazardly on 1st or 2nd down early in a series? That's news to me.

 

When you don't believe that we've run a slant pattern since 2002 or don't regularly keep the TE in on pass protection, I guess a lot of things are news to you.

 

We've not been using it. We ran a PR throwback once, does that mean we've been using it all along? Awesome dodge, but seriously, you beleive we've thrown deeper on third down than on first or second?