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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by LarryD, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    That only works if the defensive linemen are normally not on the field for most of the team's plays because they're frequently substituted. You don't run the no huddle to wear out the other team, though, you run it to prevent substitutions. If it causes fatigue, that is a side effect, but the purpose is to prevent changes in personnel. As I noted, any fatigue amongst the defense is also present amongst the offense.
    No, you didn't agree with me. You embarrassed yourself with your complete lack of football knowledge, as usual. Remember, you're the guy who is the posterchild of the internet idiot who reads PFT and believes it because he doesn't actually know enough football to realize that it's baseless gossip.

    But back to the point, remember that I did not start that argument. You did. I said that I couldn't understand why Cincinnati was so intent on using the no huddle because we didn't substitute much anyway. You took issue with that and muttered all sorts of nonsense just to be a contrarian ass, as usual. (sidenote - I never disagree just to be disagreeable. I disagree to correct people who say idiotic things. People like you disagree to be disagreeable) My point on that was correct, and you objecting to it correctly depicts you as a know-nothing moron. You then tried to make all sorts of excuses that you really meant this or that or some other thing, but you were objecting to my assertion that Cincinnati's no huddle was less effective against us since we don't substitute much. I was right, you were wrong.

    Now do yourself a favor and shut up permanently. You're becoming as big of a joke as your favorite website.
     
  2. Clay

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    hahaha can we get "Dr. Ad Hominem" set as Collin's title? :D
     
  3. Collin

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    Maybe if you spent more time coding and less time sucking dicks behind the 7-11, you could make it happen.
     
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    I didn't say he was good all season, so I don't see a reason to be specifically concerned with having said that.
     
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    ... the point being? that draft and anderson are as good as morgan and witherspoon were in early 2004? could be. seems like Morgan was playing like crap and Witherspoon was outa position a lot then. come to think of it, probably a really great comparison as draft is crap and davis/anderson are outa position a lot. still, we had a lot of problems early 2004 on D in areas besides LB that we don't have now. difference now is that we have added lucas and kemoeatu (?), have jenks back, gamble's improved over an atrocious rookie start, marshall i think is an improvement at nickle, improved also in my mind is minter over branch as FS (though Collin will argue otherwise). so i think that i too am pretty happy with the direction of the D ... just hope we can get a MLB, safety and LT next year somehow.

    we gambled on Morgan/Seward/Draft and a bunch of castoffs at SLB thrown in with a mistake prone Davis with a rook behind him. not sure it was a great gamble. i know everyone is enthralled will D Williams (i do luv his smile and personality) but i gotta wonder if that was a good pick. been interested to see how L White looks (other than spitting on teammates). a smallish RB is the last thing I thought we would draft. i still think our biggest issue is that we can't run for a first down on third and short or a TD inside the 5 yd line on just an occasion much less with any consistency (though we had a first on Hoover's run if Foster hadn't screwed up, which was probably as costly as the INT at the end). so throw in a power back to my wish list (any hopes for a pile driving guard i know are futile).

    i haven't given up on seward at MLB. i still think he has the tools to be decent ... better than draft.
     
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    and so do Peppers'. Since JP has excelled at LDE, I can't really worry too much about the flipside and whether or not Julius would be better on the other side. I have when he's struggled, sure. I've suggested the Rucker-Peppers switch as much as you have, and on paper it still makes sense in a lot of ways. Fox likes JP on the left, and I can't complain of the results.

    I can't really speak to that. We keep 7 DL active, it seems, where before we'd keep 8 including Rasmussen. If McC's that badass, he can block on KR like Rucker did, like Wallace did, like Rasmussen did. I can't feel too bad if he can't earn time. Granted, what he does this year is immaterial, since I doubt they'd get rid of Rucker even next year. But certainly, he has to find a spot to prove himself, and if he does, I'll give him the type credit that would suggest he should start amongst some of the better DL in the league.
     
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    Seward was an open can of smashed assholes at MLB. He doesn't read the offense well enough. He certainly isn't better than Draft, and I think he can only become a starter at OLB.


    and Williams was definitely the right pick. The injury is unfortunate, but he was running better than Bush and Addai before he got hurt, and he will help us when he gets back.
     
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    nope, that's not the point.
    This is closer. My point is, this defense can be suckered out, and for whatever reason, it's usually at LB. Our LBs, when they're getting suckered out, are seeing something and reacting to it, right or wrong. Take a look at 04, preseason/Atlanta, and now, and they're all running to some mythical "wrong spot" as if in unison. Whether it's a brand new LB, or an aging vet, or two $30 million men, they seem to react that way.

    I have no idea why. But they do. It's not like Seward, for instance, was running to the left sideline and the other two were in their gaps, and the ball was going up A gap. It's not like Diggs or Anderson, whichever was the play side, was hanging tough when Draft was vacating his hole on Sunday. We'd been better with Draft, but now we're back where we were.

    We've gotten younger and will have to keep getting younger, over time. I honestly don't know that we'll go get a left tackle, with Wharton coming back and Butler in, no matter how much I'm after one. That's my main concern right now.

    I was intrigued with White. Williams is just perfect for this offense, though. There's not the stutter that Foster has, and while the game is still slowing down for DW, when it does, he'll be running downhill like that a lot more. White, in the end, was just too much like Shelton - both in the big back thing, and because they were both downhill runners who had a lot of downhill in college without a lot of piles to push through. Here lately, being a RB in this system's been more about the pile than it should be, but getting in and out of the hole is very critical. That's where Davis excelled the most, not because he was huge, but because he'd hit the hole hard. I think DW can do that.
     
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    he played much more poorly than I envisioned, since he was a hell of a LB in preseason. I can't completely take away from his poor play, but the guys around him were more seasoned and more talented, and they were making the same mistakes.
     
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