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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by rake, Jan 29, 2005.

  1. rake

    rake Need one of these

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    We’re currently 5 million under the cap.

    We save 5.5 million more when:
    Peete retires +1mil
    Proehl retires +.75 mil
    Brzrzinski gets canned +1.5 mil
    Mitchell is redone + 1 mil
    Minter is redone + 1.25 mil

    Allowing us to re-sign:
    Spoon (1st & 3rd tender?), Fields, Hankton, Rasmussen, Kadela, Allen (only if we can’t find a cheaper decent option to backup Spoon), Hampton (if knee is ok, give Tillman one more look if not), Jackson (cheaper and more upside as CB than Wesley), Jordan (if Buck retires or we can’t find a better FA)

    Moose stays and gets his extension, but hoping someone here with more of a clue will clarify what $ we are likely to have left with the type of deal that has been suggested here. However that ends up getting handled hopefully it allows us the room to sign a few 2nd tier free agents.

    Considering the above how would YOU utilize our SIX draft picks and THREE 2nd tier FA acquisitions?

    If I’m GM -
    FA #1 – G (a more mobile slight upgrade over Reyes pushing him back to backup and Brzezinski OUT. A decent starting quality FA G is bound to be cheaper than an upgrade over what Wharton could be for us next season at RT)
    FA #2 – SS (a guy to compete with/or just be a decent backup to Minter. Strong is easier to find than Free right? I bet we can easily find an affordable upgrade to what we’ve got penciled in now . . . Which is who? Richardson?!?)
    FA #3 – DL (versatile guy like Burton [maybe he’d come back] able to rotate at both DT and DE if necessary. I’m confident that Fox & Co already have a few excellent possibilities in mind)

    Rook #1 – FS - Thomas Davis (unless one of the Okies or maybe Butler looks like a better pick by then. We need a guy to compete with Branch and win sooner than later)
    Rook #2 – G/C - David Baas (Our type of lineman and the Anti-Nelson 2nd round pick that should actually payoff. Immediate Starter at G and future Mitchell replacement)
    Rook #3 – ILB – Kirk Morrison (McCune, Fincher, & Kinney are all also decent sounding prospects to upgrade Ciurciu and/or Tufts as a backup and possible future replacement for Morgan)
    Rook #4 – RB – Darren Sproles (though short [why he’ll drop lower than RMJ] he’s a bigger spark than Smart as both a RS and 3rd down back)
    Rook #5 – WR – Either Dante Ridgeway or Paris Warren might still be up since they project to possession project types (Tony Madison & LeRon McCoy are raw guys with speed if that type of 5th WR is preferred)
    Rook #6 – OL (Hell, I don’t have a name this late but the OL pool apparently has some depth for decent projects this year and we might luck into a future contributor here)


    I know I'll probably get flamed for not bringing in a new RT but a FA would be too pricey and none of the rooks really sound like first year starter material so far. In hearing about the Senior Tackle crop from the Senior Bowl and from all I’ve heard about frontrunners Barron and Brown I am not feeling good about ANY Tackle at #14. Cold on Elton Brown too .. . too many reports of nagging injuries and him taking plays off to warrant a #14. Sounds like nothing but bad value at OL with our 1st pick so far. With our 2nd I’d rather take a more polished ‘05 starter at G/C than a possible ’06 starter at T too. With a more seasoned Wharton starting as our new RT and a FA upgrade to push Reyes back to backup and start along with Mitch, Baas, and Gross that might make us the most improved for the least amount of money IMO. Fordham and Reyes would be the main backups with Kadela and a 6th round rook in the wings. At RB even without Davis the combo of Foster, Goings, Hoover, and Sproles could rack up some serious yardage. With our three top WRs back and in place and three improved TEs our offense should be badass.
    As far as the biggest hole on D is concerned, didn’t that Zona SS (Roman?) that we passed on in free agency last spring end up doing well starting for the Pack? Let’s go get a guy like that this time around. I think we’d be able to afford it with the above game plan. With D-line depth a potential problem area I was tempted to draft Marcus Spears at #14 since he’s versatile and impressed scouts this week. However with the return of Jenkins I just get the feeling that all will be well on our DL next season. I’m also psyched to see Hampton and Jackson return and continue to improve . . . if they do then we are set at corner. After recently finding that half the teams in the league are in worse cap shape than us I’m much more optimistic about keeping key players and adding a handful of new ones . . . Improvement seems immanent and so does the postseason next year. :banana:
     
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  2. The Brain

    The Brain Defiler of Cornflakes

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    for starters yeah I'll bring in a Tackle. Either with that FA spot, or that second pick. If we have Baas why go for a FA guard and vice versa (BTW I like Baas). Also I'd bring a FA FS in instead of a SS. Davis will eventually move over to the Strong side.
     
  3. magnus

    magnus Chump-proof

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    If you're going that way, and using your "3 mid-priced FA" rule, I'm picking up
    *Floyd Womack, OT/G - you bring him in, you find a place for him. We can now draft for what we need, instead.
    *Lewis Sanders, CB - started a little down the stretch and responded, but wasn't a long term starter so should be fairly cheap compared to last year's guys. Provides a big nickel who can cover outside so Manning can take the slot.
    *Allen Rossum, CB/RS - may as well stop screwing around with the return game


    I'm cutting Hawkins June 1, also. No point in assigning that money, it wasn't part of the exercise.


    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/top.html

    to make this realistic, I'll offer up a site to pull down values for the picks/players. Coming in, I'm interested in a lineman, a safety, a back, and DT, LB depth. without looking below the pick, hopefully I can come up with something.


    14. Heath Miller, TE - no, they wouldn't use him. But it's my team for a day, and I'll make them fucking use the guy. It's a need. And we have to be able to move the chains - not to mention the fact that we can't pump fake to draw the S if we only have one receiver per side - using the TE means having that second option to draw a safety on the pump.


    It was that or Brown, and I didn't have to go with Brown thanks to Womack, and honestly, I'm more inclined to look for a backup G than a starting tackle.

    45. Marcus Johnson, G - didn't honestly want a guard this early. Wanted a safety. But all that was left was corner, which makes me want to regret the money on Sanders/Rossum - but it'll work out. Johnson's still a need, because I can't really justify bringing back 4/5ths of a shitty line w/o some major talent pushing some of it.

    79. JJ Arrington, RB - A bit of a change of pace at RB, Arrington gives us immediate depth and could start in the future. With enough size (he's 5'8, but he's built stout enough) and burst, his seam-hitting style works in this O and gives us what Foster has. Given that Deshaun is FA in a year, having a backup who can do what he does? Bonus.


    110. James Butler, S - no way I saw that coming (didn't peek). Honestly, I didn't think of him when I considered picking some of the safeties listed around Arrington. At worst, he's a better zone safety than is Branch, as good a ST player, and has shown ability to break on the ball. This is heartening, to see Butler available, because I'd worried about putting guard over safety. And seeing that CJ Brooks still hadn't gone? That woulda sucked, to pass over safety for a guard whose equal is two rounds behind him.


    141(?). Jammal Brimmer, S - allright, I want y'all to look at the good, raw RBs and overall athletes still remaining. Not too bad, honestly. I almost took Brandon Jacobs at RB to stash as a FB/TE for a year or two. But Brimmer is too good of a backup S/ST player to ignore, and he could be groomed for the future - first, he might get some play as the dime back (we play our dime back in a LB alignment), and then if needed, he could step in as a shorter - range SS if we're still playing over-top cover three where he could sit in the shorter zone and guard the TE.

    6th (I'll use 180 as a safe guess). Lorenzo Alexander, DT - wow. Another guy you just don't expect to be there. Gift.


    The problem is, if I just said "I'll draft this guy, this guy, and this guy" I'd feel ashamed and unrealistic about this mock. Well, not that far, but it doesn't seem right that these guys were there at 4, 5, and 6.
     
  4. magnus

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    So you'd draft a guy #1 to sit behind a FA signing and a cornerstone of the franchise that you just extended?
     
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    I didn't say the FA FS was a starter, but I did neglect to remember that I just resigned Minter. :(
     
  6. Wp28

    Wp28 I had that dream again...

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    Ok, following all the guidelines, in free agency I'm targeting a young FS to compete with Branch, a young veteran guard/Tackle, and a vteran RB with size.

    So lets say;
    McCree FS
    Womack G
    Dayne RB

    draft:

    14) I'll take Jammal Brown OT, I have Fordham for the veteran pressance and Womack can play there in a pinch, but I think Brown can be my dominant RT from day 1.

    45) was looking at Shazor or Pool here but both are gone, still lots of really good safety's left so no need to panic and reach. I'll take Antonio Perkins CB/PR here to challenge Hawkins and relieve Stevo of return duties

    79) Shocked James Butler is still available, he's not available to who ever picks next because he becomes a Panther here.

    110) It wouldn't be a Fox draft without a Utah pick, so Paris Warren becomes the understudy to Moose.

    141) Wow! G. Chris Kemoetu is still available, in round 5 I can overlook some character issues. this may be the steal of the draft.

    180) Still need a little LB depth and Missouri ILB James Kinney would be a nice back-up to Morgan and can play OLB if needed. I can cut Allen now who I had to re-sign to that one year tender according to the guide lines.
     
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    that's true, your FS could have been a competition player like WP's McCree.
     
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    HeadCase dazed and confused

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    I like your plan. Like Miller a lot but is he good value there? If he is, I love that pick. Maybe would prefer a DT. Is there any DT you would like at 14 (Travis Johnson)? Intrigued by Webster. Sounds like he showed poorly at the Senior Bowl and will drop. You suggested he mite be a safety. Do you think he would be a good pick at 45 ... or do you think he will drop further? If we don't resign Moose, would you like Clayton at 14?. The little clip I saw of Reggie Brown makes me want him ... wonder how far up the boards he is gonna rise. What are your thoughts on Mike Patterson (? DT USC)?
     
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    I don't see DT as a need of that proportion. If we're putting a #1 on it, it would be with Buckner gone, and I'm not positive then, either. We did well with having that spot across from Jenx being a rotation position. I like Patterson and Cody, I guess Cody a little more, but my top guy right now's Hawthorne, and none of them top 20 right now. Rod Wright staying in really hurt us.

    Miller's decent value there - he's a top 20 consensus. But yeah, it's a waste in this O, unfortunately.

    Would I like Clayton at 14? I believe so, I think he's the right guy for this O, but he's basically a Smitty, and while I'd love for us to have two, I'd wish that one was over 6'. I guess that's semantic, though. And I gotta keep beating the drum about getting a return specialist (which is why I used one of my 3 FAs on a RS), so I'd probably prefer that player be a RS which Clayton isn't.
    But "settling" for a Clayton, in terms of my goals for this team? Hell yeah.
     
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    HeadCase dazed and confused

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    actually, i misspoke (if that's a word). it was was roddy white they were showing on ESPN (not Brown who was also getting lots of good reports) and Kiper was hyping. he looked great on that clip. listed at 6'2" (don't know if that's what he actually measured but he looked to have good size). i think i'd love him at 14 if we don't resign Moose. your thoughts?

    take it you don't like travis johnson?
     

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